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Heyang: While most customers try to avoid buying poor-quality knockoffs, there is a group of people who have made a killing by buying fake products. They are known as "professional fake fighters" or called in Chinese职业打假人. What is behind this profession? Guys, would you explain to me a little bit more about this profession?
Nick: Well, cracking down on fake products in China has always been a problem, and because especially because many people choose to buy things through online platform so you don&`&t get to see the product before you actually buy it. And so when it arrives to you by which point you&`&ve already paid that you realized that you bought something fake. So now some people have taken matters into their own hands and deliberately buying fake products so that they can then demand the compensation from the people who sold them even though they knew they were fake in the first place. (HY: Sneaky.) Yeah, it&`&s quite sneaky and people are making a lot of money out of this.
LY: And speaking of sneaky, I&`&m not surprised at all. Because there were always be sneaky bees out there and you know they will take advantage of whatever loophole they can find. And this is just yet another example.
HY: Yeah, when there is big money involved then no wonder people are quickly finding this loophole and exploiting it. And is it millions of yuan that sometimes some of these people can earn every year? Something like that. (Nick: Something like that.) Yeah, and just one part to clarify guys, do they report to the authorities at all these people?
LY: I think a lot of them actually kind of threaten the original providers of the fake goods. So they act this way: I tell you, I know that this is fake so you had better do something. If you for example return money to me or triple that amount then I will not report you to the authorities. However, if you do not do that, well let&`&s just wait and see what happens. So they resort to that kind of threatening.
HY: And Liu Yan thank you so much for acting that out for a second just feel like that you know exactly what&`&s going on. (Nick: Maybe you are one of these people.) You know every line what they use. (LY: I told you what I haven&`&t done that. I&`&m just acting.) (Nick: you&`&ve been rumbled.) And you are very good at that I have to say. So how do think this profession so to speak emerged in the first place? I mean yes maybe there are lots of fake goods but what exactly is that loophole we are talking about?
Nick: Well, China has a law from 1993 on the Protection of the Rights and Interests of Customers, which means that if the business or the seller provides fraudulent products to the customer then they are required to pay compensation to the customer which is at least equal to two times what the consumer originally paid so not the money back but the same amount again on top of that. So you can really see how people are making money out of this.
LY: And also we know that starting September last year there was the so-called the strictest Advertising Law ever in Chinese history. And ever since that law came into effect a lot of people became targets that probably were targets in the first place simply because they use words like "the most" "the first" "the best ever" things like that in their so-called advertising. So people could cash those words and you know do something like threatening. You know the thing I just demonstrated.
HY: So well, Liu Yan. I am going to record that part and save it. God knows what arises in the future maybe I can use it in some way just like you taught us. And I think with these fake fighters they have been very shrewd about this. Last question for you guys, yes or no, do you think that this kind of profession is bad because it&`&s not reporting to the authorities?
LY: I think it&`&s bad.
HY: Although people are making money out of it. What about you, Nick?
Nick: I don&`&t have any sympathy, they are selling fakes.