111期：对话·和冰淇淋达人Giapo聊人生（上） - Giapo's life, work and ice

“对于青年人，我得说，得充满激情，这不意味着有激情就行。充满激情意味着有很多不同领域的激情。所以，简单来说，需要有爱，要爱！对食物的爱，对姑娘的爱，对汽车、对杂志、对科学，任何你想要爱的东西，去爱它们。有一天你会明白这一点弥足珍贵……”《狗熊有话说》首次尝试对话式节目，与新西兰知名的冰淇淋品牌“Giapo”创始人Gianpaolo畅聊人生，这是节目的上集。（所以这真的是个科技类的节目么？） "To young people, I have to say, be passionate, which does not mean to have passion. Be passionate means have many passions. So, love! Food love, girl love, cars, love magazines, love science, anything you may want to love, you love it. The day you will understand when you don't like what you are doing, and you will know it is gold." This is the first interview episode of the BearTalk podcast. Let's listen the stories from Gianpaolo, the found of Giapo ice cream in Auckland, NZ.