Xiaohua: The omnipotent Chaoyang residents are on the go again. Latest news says that a CCTV host busted by police while taking drugs fell from a building in Beijing and died. The host as well as another drug user was reported by Chaoyang residents, the so-called “Chaoyang Masses”, or 朝阳群众 to the local police.
The phrase “Chaoyang Masses” has been very popular recently with the help of the Internet. Now let’s talk about it finally. Why do you think that this term gets so popular.
Heyang: Because I think it’s been closely connected to a string of celebrity gossip. That’s it’s always the Chaoyang residents or the Chaoyang masses give the police a tip-off. And now there’s this CCTV host, and previously there was Huang Haibo and Ke Zhendong and a whole bunch of others. As a result of the tip-off got busted by the police either because of calling prostitutes or taking drugs and all kinds of things going on.
So, I’m with the netizens. When and how did the Chaoyang masses became such a powerful and mysterious organization, to some extent, that can fight crime? When did that start happening, since last year I suppose?!
Mark: I think it started happening in people’s imagination. When this phrase has been invented by the media. That’s when the phenomenon started. Realistically, it doesn’t exist.
Xiaohua: It was invented by the police probably.
Mark: There are certain individuals who have nothing better to do. They go around poking their noses into other people’s business. Now sometimes when it’s illegal business, it could be a good thing. But to think of it…as it has been compared to the British secret service the MI6…
Heyang: And also the CIA, the MOSSAD…
Mark: Come on now, really. I think this is the most hyped up story and a fantastic sounding phrase—the Chaoyang Masses—to hook the whole story onto. And we’ve fallen for it. We are promoting it.
Xiaohua: We are not. We’re trying to get to the bottom to it.
Mark: We are discussing it. In that way, we are going along the way with this idea that there’s such as thing as the Chaoyang Masses. When in fact it’s probably just different people who happen to know someone, maybe they have a grudge against them. And if they can snitch it to the police then they will. I hardly think it is hundreds of thousands of people in organized units, going around busting crime. Is it?
It’s the odd person with a grudge that thinks alright, I’m going to make an anonymous tip-off to the cops and you are for it Mister. That’s what is happening.
Heyang: And maybe they happen to live in Chaoyang district who knows.
Mark: maybe they don’t. Who cares.
Heyang: Yeah, we cares.
Mark: But it doesn’t help the story if we say they don’t.
The media loves this kind of thing. Sure enough, we are enjoying it now and discussing it.
Heyang: When I saw this my initial question was…So these are celebrities that have paparazzi following them around. And even the paparazzi who have a close eye on these celebrities 24 hours around the clock couldn’t bust them taking drugs and doing illegal things. When did these Chaoyao people and how did they bust them when even the paps can’t do. Thanks guys, I think now we’ve cleared the air a little bit for me.
Mark: Let’s look at this realistically. If you are running a hotel, if you are renting an apartment and you sometimes service the apartment. The hotel room is cleaned and you find some drug paraphernalia or something there, you don’t want anything to do with that obviously. Therefore you would probably tell the police. But it’s hardly a case for the Chaoyang Masses. It’s probably someone looking after their own interests. Because they don’t anything to do with that kind of illegal activity. And therefore they don’t want anyone doing it in their property. Who knows how the information gets to the police. It’s probably things like that, people looking after their own interests.
Xiaohua: You guys have great points. But just to play devil’s advocate here. Don’t underestimate the power of the masses, or maybe the Dama’s, or the Daye’s in this case of Chaoyang.
On the one hand, I think Chaoyang is a place where expat communities are there, and lots of celebrities do live in Chaoyang. I guess that’s why it’s always Chaoyang and things happening in Chaoyang. On the other hand, it plays to the police’s advantage to create or help to create this phenomenon. Because that gives Chaoyang an image of there’s citizen vigilante where you don’t want to do something bad.
Our listener Yang Duo says why are there still people taking drugs in Chaoyang, knowing that there’s the Chaoyang qunzhong there.
Probably a good point.