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Luo Yu: Right. It’s like ten percent of the students suffer from this learning disabilities. Yeah, I think in the future, teachers can do is that do not label the student as being having the lower IQ or being lazy (But this is not lower IQ though…I think…) I know, I know (Yeah…), but a lot of teachers actually label the students as being lazy or having lower IQ. This is definitely wrong. I think Hong Kong has done a very good example for the Chinese Mainland, because Hong Kong Municipality has trained teachers in more than two hundred schools to identify dyslexic students. Once they have been identified, they can be sent to, you know, special training program, and as He Yang has mentioned, they can be salvaged totally. Intervention is quite important because if the problem is identified in the first two years of the elementary school, almost ninety percent of this reading and writing problems could be solved completely. However, as you grow older, the success rate will be dropping as well. So I think intervention, well, identification is very important, and strengthening of the schooling system is also very important. (Yeah) In China, nationwide, we only have less than five social organizations offering services for dyslexia (Yeah) students.
Heyang: Yeah, and I think this is certainly one area that just doesn’t get any attention and that’s why I keep on saying dyslexia and 读写障碍 in Chinese. I want everybody to know about this. As I think this is something we can learn a lot from foreign experiences. It’s just, I can’t believe me saying this, but a couple of years ago, I used to think that dyslexia only exist in English, because I’ve only seen studies and thorough discussions of this topic in English, and I simply thought this is nothing to do with Chinese, when actually there is simply just no awareness as such. And apparently the timely intervention is really important that according to experts, they say the best time to intervene is before the age of twelve. (Yeah) So, yeah, like Luo Yu said earlier, this needs the expertise and the patience of teachers that sometimes these kids they’re not being lazy. They are not just messing around. That they’re trying to tell you or they don’t how to tell you that “I am sorry, I simply don’t get this the way you’re teaching me and I am having a problem but I don’t realize this is a disorder.” And parents need to realize this too so you can give your kid a helping hand in that kind of situation too.
Ryan: Yeah, sounds like a… maybe a test, not a test like to tell if they are, like a test to tell how they learn. Because a test to tell how they learn at a young age sounds like you can better fit them in the classes that would be able to teach them and get them out this funk. So they’ll become part of ninety percent that do fix this problem. But you now, I’ll take you to another level, I will even say that people learn, just regular people, everybody learns in different ways, like in US, we always talk about it. There is audial people that like to hear things… like listening to lectures is how they learn. There is other people that have to, like write it down. They are actually they have to engage in do something while they listening to this information for them to retain it. And there is people that learn just by watching but they are so many different ways for people to learn and how they excel. Yet we have one standardized unilateral way for teaching them. So it’s interesting because these people can flourish if they are put into the right kind of classroom. (Yeah…)
Luo Yu: I do agree, because people should have diversified growth patterns, and according to some of the researchers from Yale University, Sally Shaywitz and Bennett Shaywitz, they argue in their joint research that people with dyslexia tend to be more creative and also they say youngsters’ reading skills could be improved through proper training techniques and tools. That’s no wonder probably maybe Albert Einstein or Steve Jobs have captured their parents’ or teachers’ attention, and then they got the proper training, but probably that will not be the case in China, and we could possibly lose someone talented as Albert Einstein and Steve Jobs here in China.
Ryan: I totally agree with that. In fact, words out of my mouth, I totally agree. I think better plans and better ways to identify and find these kids at a young age will help the world see more Albert Einstein and Steve Jobs which could make this world a much more convenient and a better place where we really flourish as a society, right, instead of just having one standardized way to teach people who are all so different when it comes to learning.
Heyang: That is so true. That is so true. And, Wow, I think I’ve leaned a lot from you guys, and yeah, I’m really happy about this discussion and I just wanna finish on the note of Xiao Jingteng. (Laughing) Because back to what he said in the various interviews and I’ve watched them all, yes, he didn’t find the kind of support in his school, but there was this body on campus that was not about academic endeavors, and it was about, well, listening to music, and he found Bon Jovi, and I found Bon Jovi when I was a little kid too, and that led to my interest in Rock & Roll music and led to Xiao Jingteng, and wanting to write that kind of music when he grows up. And look at where he is now, and he still finds it difficult to read out some of the scripts that’s been given to him as I think he’s passed the window to cure dyslexia, but don’t let this stop you, there are always a way.
Ryan: Yeah, you should never feel bad because maybe he can’t follow down someone else’s path, reading books and becoming a super huge academic, but he is a rock star, (Yeah…) look how cool is that, my hat is off to you, sir.
Heyang: Yeah, Mr. Xiao Jingteng, and, wow, (laughing) yeah, even more happier now.
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