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Now moving away from topics that heavy, let's talk about everyday feminism. So at workplace, do French women nowadays struggle with the same equality issues at workplace like equal pay or sort of like equal opportunity to get promoted? Is there glass ceiling or maternal wall that sort of thing.
In theory from what I know, the law in France is particularly they make sure that companies are not supposed to discriminate against like hiring a woman but that goes as well people from minorities because they are like around 20%...there is like a lot of people who actually come from like North Africa, Africa, Asian countries, a little bit of... and 1 or 2 generation ago, it was like more for Spain, Italy and Portugal.
So we do have laws regarding discrimination, then after, obviously it's gonna be difficult to prove that you've been discriminated against. Like if I'm applying for a job, I'm a woman and another guy’s been selected, I think is gonna be a bit hard to convince a jury that they choose that guy because he was a guy and they didn't choose me because I was a woman.
In my recollection, they have not been big public cases of discrimination like this. Still like a French woman, according to the law, people should be paid equally, but I just checked and roughly women are being paid roughly 15% less than men.
Than men.
Yeah, and I remember like recently a friend of mine she works in a big company. She was explaining to me that they decided the company was having nice bonuses and they decided to raise everyone’s bonus everyone’s salary, because they had such a good year, and good for them it’s just that at the end they raised everyone the same level.
So the big manager they were making good money, so I think they give everyone 3% but so like she thought it was kind of silly because entry workers...
He didn't really bridge.
Yeah, like an entry worker, 3% is not gonna be the same as a big manager. So she thought like they should have equalized the pay of entry workers and women and people maybe who don't have a proper diploma. Sometimes it's a whole work in progress.
And to give you another example, I think which is very important regarding maternity leave. French women enjoy a 6 months paid maternity leave when they have a child or the second or the third child. Whereas men just got 2 weeks and I do have a few friends of mine...
I think this is roughly the same as in China, give or take, women get 4 to 6 months and men just get 1 or 2 weeks. That's... I don't know how you guys feel about that because that is hardly equal because that kind of sort of just effectively taking men out of the child care responsibilities because they simply do not have the time to do that.
Yeah, definitely. And that is an issue. I do know that some of my French friend who became dad and who are supporting feminism, that's the one thing that would complain about. They would say like... they could like drop their job and take a 6 months non-paid vacation, but people are not stupid like if they have to choose between a salary or no salary, they are gonna take their salary.
But I do know that some of them were like this is not fair like why can't I be with my spouse and or baby for 6 months, and because at the end it keeps on the discrimination like every man will would have to be forced to take like a 6 months parental leave. I think first of all, you would really reduce like the whole workforce like the chore that you do at home like then guys would have to do the same as woman hopefully.
And then second then when you are hiring someone who is like around 28, 30, then you would not think about maybe take a man over a woman because at the end of the day, if they become a father, they would have to take a 6 months paid leave. But the problem is that's not the law right now. Hopefully it will change. But I do know that even for some of those dads, they are a bit like they are not that super happy a
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